My Minimal Wardrobe – How I Simplified My Closet: a house log
Whenever I am asked about my clothes, I joke that I wear in short the same thing every day. But it turns out that even after years of saying that (and sharing that I had simply one bra for many years on the journal), a whole bunch of people freaked out when they saw the hanging bar in my closet on Instagram lately. I got FLOODED with DMs about my sparse mostly black wardrobe. One person even said that seeing my closet was, and I quote: “the wildest thing they’ve seen on the internet in 2018.” That is quite the statement considering 2018 also gave us Gritty.
To clarify I do not in fact wear the same items of clothing every day on repeat – I simply have a fairly small number of clothes that I enjoy and wear all the time – all of which are fairly similar in color/style/silhouette – which I lovingly call “my uniform.” Think Steve Jobs or Michael Kors… except with fewer turtlenecks and less of that billionaire vibe.
I am not doing laundry any more frequently than anyone else (we do it once a week around here, which I think is fairly average), so it is simply about having sufficient outfits that you enjoy to get you from laundry day to laundry day (whether they need to be warm, or dressy, or whatever works for your life) without having a ton of extra stuff that is in the way of the things that you in fact wear.
So if you are tired of drawers and closets that are overflowing, or you enjoy the idea of a more minimal wardrobe full of things you enjoy – and less money spent on clothing excess – then this post is for you. There are certainly people with even fewer clothes, and folks who have other methods for paring down, but I am simply gonna lay out what works for me. And if you are a wardrobe maximalist who loves having tons of clothes and a bunch of distinct looks and you ADORE your extensive wardrobe, then this post is not for you (do whatever works for you, boo! I am ALL FOR THAT!).
Ok, so my plan is simply to take you through my closet and all of my drawers, talk you through my process/formula for keeping my wardrobe minimal, and show you how I can create a bunch of outfits (from casual to dressy and from warm weather to cold weather) from a fairly pared down number of tops and bottoms that I lovingly refer to as: “my uniform.”
And it bears mentioning that even if you have a fully distinct dress code for your profession, or if you hate the way I dress and the colors/styles/silhouettes that I wear, this is a formula. So you can plug in your go-to silhouettes and colors and everything else that YOU enjoy to make this work for you! You can even easily dye clothes at home to better fit your formula!
Closet Video Tour
Let us kick this puppy off with a video tour. I know you have questions (I vividly remember all those DMs I got on Instagram), but pictures are worth 1,000 words, and a video is worth 1,000 pictures. So I am walking you through my closet and opening all of my drawers (and John’s – haha!) to show you exactly what I have and how I store it along with sharing a little bit more about why/how it works for me. Note: if you cannot see the video below and are reading this post in a feed reader, you might have to click through to the original post to see it. We also uploaded it here on YouTube.
Update: Got a few questions about where my painting clothes are since you saw John’s in the video, but I have a quite *strange* method that we have in fact shared in the archives. I paint with my PJs on inside out. You can see my tags sticking out in all their glory in this old post from 2011. Never said I was normal, folks!
Ok, so now that you’ve seen where everything is, and heard me talk a little bit about my uniform, let us dive a little deeper. I am simply gonna answer things Q&A style for you below.
How Does A “Uniform” Work?
I am not talking about a school uniform where your closet is filled with dozens of identical skirts and polos here, but it is nearly like finding your own personal “dress code” – meaning the cuts, colors, and styles that you enjoy the most and feel strong in. Because if you find something that works, it makes sense that it is going to be the thing that you will reach for and wear a whole lot more than everything else. So why not take a second to figure out why it works and why you enjoy it so much so you can enjoy every last item in your closet that much?! Sounds good, right?
That is the core idea behind my “uniform” – simply figuring out what you enjoy and stopping the vicious cycle of buying other things to stay “on trend” or for the sake of “variety” or to “look distinct” and then realizing months later that you never wear them because they do not make you feel as good or you do not like the cut or the color nearly as much as your tried and true go-tos. And the remarkable thing is that once you truly understand why you like what you like, you can stand in a store or the dressing room and eliminate clothing that does not fit within that criteria without much effort or thought! You can literally stop the cycle of buying yet another thing that you will not truly enjoy AND you can keep your closet and drawers from filling up with unnecessary extras. Plus you get to keep a little more cash in your wallet.
I do not think there is simply one magic wardrobe number that works for everyone (someone who goes to the gym every day or lives on a farm or does a team sport may have a need for more laundry/clothing than someone who does not) but I will show you my “uniforms” in a second, simply to serve as an example. Oh and I say “uniforms” with an S because there can be distinct ones for distinct seasons and occasions, like casual weekend uniforms, workout uniforms, work uniforms, etc. And the key is simply to figure out how many of those you in fact need and not have double or triple that amount all squeezed into your drawers and falling all over the floor of your closet. And did I mention you can save that money? I did? Ok, good. Simply making sure.
So do not tell yourself that simply because you work in an office and have to dress up, or because you live in a colder climate that you cannot have a simpler closet. It is not true!! I dressed myself with this method all the way back in NYC when I had an office job that necessitated me dressing up all the time. And this was in a colder climate where I walked city streets and stood on frigid subway platforms – so I certainly needed all the layering I could get. Why does it still work, even if you have to dress up or add a coat and a scarf and a hat? Because in the end, this is all math, GLORIOUS MATH!
What Exact Items Are In My “Uniform”?
If you’ve followed us for any amount of time, you likely already know my uniform. Black v-neck tops. Jeans. Black scoop neck tanks. Denim shorts. Blazers. Leather or suede jackets. More blazers. And a black dress or two to round things out. It has become kind of a joke, because you folks keep seeing me in a blazer at in short every speaking event or book signing. But here is the thing: it is not an accident. Because it is the way I dress. It has become my uniform for those sorts of things – because I like the way they feel and look on me. And I in fact reach for them in my closet and wear them (yesssssss) so I know they do not sit around wasting space. And therefore I enjoy these items. They work hard for me, make me feel good, and earn their space in my closet.
Six years of living in New York City instilled my enjoy of black, and while I do branch out occasionally (I have been known to get wild and throw some navy or olive green in here and there) I have learned over the years that when I deviate and buy something in a brighter color, I rarely end up wearing it regularly because – well – I consistently have other options in my closet that I like better. And guess what? They are black. It was something I had to realize over time, but ever since I embraced my enjoy of black and stopped trying to make myself wear other colors that I ultimately did not wear because I did not like them as much (vicious cycle, much?!), two things have happened: 1) I feel GOOD in my clothes. Like all the time. There is zero clothing drama for me when I get dressed. 2) I have stopped wasting money and time buying items I will likely simply return or donate later. It is freeing!
top: Old Navy but no longer sold / jeans / heels
I have also learned over the years that most of my go-to tops are a little more fitted than the average loose fitting cut, because it helps my 5’2″ body look a little less amorphous – like I am wearing a potato sack. This realization makes it straightforward to pass over anything with a drapey look in the store – no matter how glamorous it looks on the mannequin or some long torsoed girl in the fitting room.
Same thing with shorts. I buy short shorts, because I am petite and when I have tried buying longer shorts, they make me look frumpy, like I am going golfing or something. And then I’d give those shorts the stink eye for wasting space in my drawer and eventually donate them. But the realization that shorter shorts work better for my body has been freeing. I no longer waste time or money buying longer shorts “simply for variety” or to have “something distinct” because they do not look as good on me – so duh, of course I will not wear them as much and they’ll eventually end up in the donate pile!
Same thing with a certain cut of jeans or something. It is straightforward to fall for the marketing that says “this bellbottom highwater pant that ends at your shin is the new cool thing!” but I gotta tell ya… it might not be something you in fact like or feel good in. So I am not saying blanketly that you should avoid all trends, but before you go to the store, simply look through your clothes and see what you do not wear – then figure out why. If you pull out one pair of jeans with a distinct cut that you picked up “simply to be distinct” but you never wear them because you do not like how they look as much as every other pair you have, it is a whole lot easier to dodge the urge to do that quite same thing in the dressing room the next time around.
So let us say you get to this point and you are like “uh, but all of your clothes are black. That is so boring. I would die.” Yes, my clothes are mostly black. But this works with all the colors of the rainbow (and all styles and all body types). If you pull out your quite go-to outfits from your closet – simply the things you in fact wear and enjoy – and lay them on the bed, I am betting they might have some things in common. Even if there are a bunch of distinct colored items on the bed. I would bet there are still some colors that come up more because you enjoy how you look and feel in them. And you might also notice some trends with cut/silhouette, because chances are if a certain cut of jeans makes you feel your best, it may also be your go-to cut of dress pants. And you might have a few blazers or jackets with similar shapes that hit your body at simply the right spot or something. Things are your go-to for a reason, right!?
I am also a big fan of layering. It is how I made it work in NYC while working in an agency where I had to get dressed up without even having a dresser in my apartment. That is right, I had one small and narrow closet and that was it. So I taught myself to layer things. Five shirts that can be layered under five distinct jackets or blazers = 25 distinct combinations!!! I mean, how excellent is that math?! And if you add a few distinct pairs of shoes and some lively jewelry to switch out too, it is a whole lot of looks without having a whole lot of things. Did I simply have five of each thing? No, that would likely feel a little tight – but I likely had under 10 tops that I layered with perhaps 7 blazers/jackets/cardigans and then had perhaps 5 options for bottoms (jeans if I did not have to present that day, and black pants if I did).
The funny thing is that my current “typical uniform” of a black top + denim bottom is that it replicates exactly what I did in NYC when I worked in an office – it is simply a little less dressy. So I can easily transition between summer and winter simply by layering – which is exactly what I did back then. When it gets cold I simply swap my denim shorts or skirt for skinny jeans, and I throw a jacket right over my black summer tank (perhaps a black leather jacket or a crisp blazer or an olive green faux suede jacket). It can even go from casual to somewhat-dressy (like a date night) because I can toss on some cute heels and big earrings and I am ready to go!
jeans / black tank / green faux suede jacket / leopard heels
How To Pare Down Your Closet
Now I am not in a position to tell you what YOUR uniform should look like, but one especially straightforward pointer for figuring yours out is to do what I touched on a little earlier in this section. Simply pull all of your quite go-to outfits out – the ones you enjoy and wear all the time – and lay them on your bed. Then count them. You might literally have sufficient right there to take you from laundry day to laundry day. If so: congrats! That is your uniform! Right there on the bed! The rest is excess and it can be shoved into a big tupperware bin or two and stashed in the attic or garage. Simply see if you even need those items at all. This is the training wheels method – if you need something you can take it back out – but if you do not miss it and this helps to show you that it is simply dead weight in your closet or your drawers, it feels remarkable to consign or donate that extra fluff and simply have a wardrobe you ENJOY and in fact wear!
Ok, but say you only have like five outfits on the bed and you need more than that to get you from laundry day to laundry day. The next step would be to try to identify the common threads, because you need more clothes that make you feel this way. Is it a certain color or color family that you notice when you stare at the winning clothes on the bed? Perhaps it is four go-to colors and tones instead of simply one like me? Is it a certain cut? Perhaps a fitted silhouette in general or a more voluminous skirt if you feel your best in something lively and swingy? Do a bunch of your go-to outfits follow the same “formula” – perhaps a wrap dress with a cardigan and a cute colorful flat? Try to boil things down as much as you can so you have as much direction as you can moving forward. Try not to simply say “I like boho stuff” or “anything at Anne Taylor!” because that will not assist you as much as a more detailed set of parameters will.
Calculating Your Closet Needs
Again, this is not about hitting a certain fixed number or quota in my closet, but I do find that thinking about this in numbers is helpful – especially simply in illustrating why a lot of us have too many pieces in our closets and drawers. The basic idea is to have sufficient items to get you from one laundry day to the next, with a few – but not too many – extras (you know, in case you spill OJ down your shirt or you run a bit behind on washing a load).
We do laundry about once per week in our household, so I have 10 “bottoms” in my wardrobe to cover those 7 days: 4 pairs of jeans, 4 pairs of shorts, 1 skirt, and 1 pair of yoga pants (I also have a few dresses for dressier occasions). And no, I am not wearing shorts in the winter to get from laundry day to laundry day – I simply do not wash my denim after each wear because I am a rule follower and it is not recommended (do not torture your jeans, folks!). So 4 pairs of jeans or 4 pairs of denim shorts easily last me 7 days if I wear a few of them twice before tossing them into the hamper. Nobody has ever told me that I smell, and children are QUITE honest, so I feel good about this.
Ok, so now forget about me and think about all the distinct uniforms YOU might need for your lifestyle, whatever that may be – like for work or exercising – and in fact add up in your head how many of those outfits you will need to get you through to your next laundry day. Keep that number in mind. Next, peek into your closet and drawers and simply look at the actual number of things you have. If you count 25 t-shirts and tanks for summer, I’d guess that you likely wear your go-to 10-ish tops on repeat from laundry day to laundry day, and the other 15 items stay shoved wherever they consistently live, simply taking up space because you have so many other items that you like more. If that is the case – simply keep your 10 go-tos and put the rest into the tupperware bin. You can do this. It is not permanent. It is simply to see if you truly do miss them or need them.
The same logic applies to any part of your uniform. Why own 6 bathing suits if you only rotate between the 2 that you like best?! John lately realized he had 8 running shirts in his drawer but was only wearing 3 each week, washing them, and repeating that. This realization not only helped him get rid of those space-stealing extras (he still kept a couple back-ups) but it reminded him that he does not need to buy any more when he’s standing there in the store staring at them. Win-win.
And for anyone who worries that simply having a small number of go-to staples (aka: a uniform) might make you look like you are wearing the exact same thing every day – it certainly does not have to. Even with my quite limited palette, I put together this little visual to show you how straightforward it is to layer things and change accessories to truly switch things up. YAY PERMUTATIONS! I TOLD YOU THIS WAS MATH!
So those are some of the combinations I can make out of a few of my go-to items in my closet. Note that there are 10 distinct outfits in the image above – and they are all made from simply 4 distinct tops, 6 bottoms, and 2 dresses (the patterned skirt-looking-thing is a dress that feels too crazy for me, so I layer a tank over it to make it look like a skirt).
I enjoy this demonstration because at first thought you might say… “Ok so if I want to have 10 work outfits and 7 causal outfits to get me from laundry day to laundry day comfortably with some wiggle room, that means I need 17 bottoms and 17 tops.” But wait! That is bad math! Think about how you rewear your denim and perhaps even a blazer if you do not feel like it got too dirty – and then think about how many combo moves you can make by layering things in distinct ways! Remember that the 10 outfits above are made from simply 12 pieces – not the 20+ you might initially think would be needed if you simply assumed you’d need distinct bottoms and tops every single day.
Am I rewearing those black tanks between washes? Nope! So it does bear mentioning that I enjoy those so much, and I wear them so frequently, that I have three of them. They are inexpensive and so versatile and they stay looking crisp and fresh that way. So occasionally purchasing multiples of something that you wear a ton can be an excellent way to keep it looking pleasant long-term and allow yourself to wear it in a few distinct ways throughout the week.
A Few Other Reasons We Buy Stuff We Do not Wear
A big part of my method is simply being honest with myself about what I in fact wear day in and day out, and then being willing to let go of the rest of the stuff that is taking up space. I know a lot of us hold onto clothes that we think that we will wear for some future hypothetical occasion or circumstance (“aspirational wardrobe” is what I call it – it is when you buy some item for some imaginary quite glamorous event but you never in fact wear it because this is real life and not the Sims, so you do not in fact go to those types of events). So sometimes that is what gets us into this overcrowded closet situation.
It also might be a good deal that pointers the scales for you (“ooh these are so low-cost, I cannot say no! I have gotta have them even though I have 15 shirts I like better BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO DOLLARS!”). Or it could be this idea that buying a certain thing will make you more stylish or pulled together (but then you never in fact wear it because it turns out you wear/enjoy especially comfy clothes and that item that looks more pulled together is way less comfy than your soft and cozy go-tos, so…).
What About That One Especially Colorful Thing In Your Closet?
See this colorful dress? I know, it is kind of hilarious next to everything else in my closet. But it fills a need, and I wear it frequently sufficient to warrant it staying. Why do I have it? Well, it is kind of like my one fake uniform. I like how I look and feel in black, but every few months or so we need to give someone a bio picture or get dressed up for a photoshoot (like for our furniture line for example) and this dress comes with me. All black in a picture can look like a big dark hole amongst an otherwise lively and colorful shot, so I literally picked up this dress from J. Crew Outlet a few years ago simply for photos. Life is weird, huh?!
But we might all have strange wardrobe guidelines. Mine might be weirder than yours, but I am sharing this because the instinct might be to tell yourself “hey I have this weird part of my life and I need some outfits for that, so I should likely grab like 10” – but in reality, I do not need 10 colorful “fake uniforms” – one does the trick. So I have one.
Shopping Pointer: Protect Your Closet GPA
Here is another way to think about paring down your closet: you want to maintain a high closet GPA (grade point average). This is how I have been thinking about my closet for YEARS, and it truly helps me avoid impulse purchases. Imagine giving every item of clothing that you already own a grade that is based on how much you like it AND in fact wear it. The things you wear all the time and enjoy are As. Wahoo – working towards that ideal 4.0 average.
But that random yellow sweater you picked up on a whim or because it was on sale, and have only worn once… well that stinker is closer to D or F territory. IT IS BRINGING DOWN YOUR WHOLE CLOSET’S GPA. You want your closet to be filled with your quite go-to and most wearable items – so when you are out shopping, think to yourself “is this new shirt better than all the other shirts I already have, so it’ll bring up my average – or do I enjoy everything I have more than this shirt? Because if the latter is the case, that bad boy is gonna bring down your GPA – and ain’t nobody got time for that.
I think in general we tend to overcomplicate our clothing needs – and stores are constantly telling us we need something new, distinct, and trendy in order to look better or live a happier life or whatever story they are trying to tell you when you see those people dashing across the street and hailing a cab in the commercials. Once I got truly truly glad with my clothes (they make me feel good! I enjoy everything in my closet!) that is like armor against all of those temptations to buy the newest and trendiest clothing and accessories.
You Do not Have To Be Minimal Everywhere
I am not a minimalist in every stretch of the word, though! So here is a caveat to assist you embrace whatever items you might in fact not want to pare down at all. This minimal wardrobe of mine is about making my life easier and making me glad – it is not about deprivation! AT ALL! So take my earrings for example. I likely have over 20 pairs of big lively earrings along with some classic studs and other jewelry like a few bracelets, a watch, a few necklaces.
That might be a lot to you!! You might not even have one pair of big dangly earrings. But for me, they are part of my uniform – simply like blazers and black tanks. So I embrace the fact that I have this many. I am totally cool with it, and I do not beat myself up. Incidentally, I think my enjoy of them grew in NYC when I had no space for plenty of clothes but I could consistently fit a few more earrings in my compact apartment! Ha!
Does Owning Less Cause More Wear?
I got a lot of questions about how my clothes hold up if I am wearing and washing each item more frequently. I see how someone could jump to that conclusion, but… drumroll please… I am simply washing things once a week like everyone else. Everything you wear, you launder it every 7 days or so, on average, right? And you likely wear your go-to 10 or so outfits and then you launder them. Well same for me! I simply do not have that extra stuff hanging between each item or shoved into the back of the drawer.
Since I have fewer items, I am encouraged to take better care of them. Things are not getting shoved or crammed onto a rod or into a drawer, and they are not sitting crumpled somewhere because I do not have space. I hesitate to say they are “precious” (I do most of my shopping at places like Old Navy and Target) but when I have fewer backup items, I am more inclined to take the time to get stains out, fix missing buttons, or follow the proper care instructions with the things I do own.
tank / jeans / fitbit
In fact, I am Especially Pleasant to my stuff because my uniforms work hard for me. I like to wash everything in cold water (helps to lock in colors/black), I wash denim and black things inside out (helps with fading), and I consistently do a gentle wash and a tumble dry low (nothing too harsh for my babies, I mean clothes). I also consistently try to put laundry away right after it is done, so I am not losing track of piles of clothes and then rewashing them because I am not sure if they are clean or dirty – which is certainly something that my friends with more clothes say happens to them.
I have blazers and jackets and tops and jeans that I have owned for three or even over five years… so it is not like I am rebuying this “minimal wardrobe” every season or even every year. Most of my staples work for at least a few years, although I do buy a few multiples of inexpensive items (like my black tanks) so they stay looking fresher for longer.
How I Combine My Outfits
This is fairly self-explanatory, so I am not gonna linger on it too much (and your closet go-tos might look fully distinct than mine do), but seeing how I switch out shoes and jewelry and purses or some other thing below might simply assist the whole “permutations” thing click into place in your head, so here we go…
These are examples of what I might wear on a date night or to a work meeting or something. You can see the “uniform” in total effect here. Both outfits are skinny pants + a fitted tank + a jacket (blazer on the right, leather jacket on the left). I like to play around with shoes and jewelry, so that helps to add a little something extra for me, and I am good to go.
Left: jeans / heels / similar top / leather jacket
Right: jeans / shoes / striped tank / blazer / necklace / watch
This is another example of what I might wear if I want to be slightly dressier for a holiday gathering or some sort of dinner out or party or something. Once again it is skinnies on the bottom, a fitted top, and some big earrings and lively shoes. I like a plain black clutch too (hi, have you met me? I like plain black accessories). One funny thing I did not even realize until I took these photos is that I also like nude and leopard in my shoes along with black.
Left: jeans / heels / top / black clutch / earrings
Right: jeans / leopard flats / top / green jacket / similar earrings / black clutch
This is an example of what I might wear in the summer to a especially casual something (on the right) and a slightly less casual something else (on the left). Oh and to everyone who asked what I walk in (because I have been doing these excellent long walks over lunch or after bedtime) and the answer is: whatever outfit I wear that day + sneakers or even flip flops in the summer. I cannot stress how chill these walks are (there is no sweatband and sprinting, these are delightful strolls) so as long as I have deodorant on, I am good.
Left: skirt / similar shoes / striped tank / clutch / earrings
Right: shorts / sandals / tank / similar earrings /similar sunglasses
Here are some more summer casual “uniforms” I wear all the time. It may shock you to learn that my everyday purse is this tan crossbody bag (WHAT, IT IS NOT BLACK?!?!), but the reason I enjoy it is because I am nearly consistently wearing black, so I like that it adds something interesting with another color and goes with everything.
Left: shorts / sandals / striped tank /similar sunglasses
Right: shorts / sandals / tank / earrings / similar purse /similar sunglasses
If I want to dress up a little for some reason (or no reason – I once wore the long black dress on the right to an ice cream parlor with the kids) these might be what I wear. I mentioned before that the left outfit looks like it is made up of a patterned skirt and a tank but it is in fact a dress that feels way too crazy to me when it is worn that way but I ENJOY it with a black tank layered over it. Once again I add cute shoes and some big earrings and either of these outfits have me out the door in minutes. Is not it funny that they have the same silhouette too? Creature of habit right here ;)
Left: dress / tank / similar shoes / similar earrings
Right: dress / leopard flats / earrings / similar purse / similar sunglasses
Got Any Pointers For Minimizing Kids Clothing?
There are plenty of tricks for determining what you or your kids in fact wear, versus what you think you wear. Like turning all of the hangers in one direction and then turning them around once an item is worn. The theory is that after a couple of weeks or months you can see exactly what did not get touched. You can also move everything to one side of your hanging rod and move it back once it has been worn. Any version of that works well for hanging clothes, but plenty of us – especially kids – store big chunks of their wardrobe in drawers. BUT I HAVE A SOLUTION!
You simply have to do one plain thing each week for a few weeks in a row. Ready for it? Simply look in their drawers and at their hanging bar on laundry day. That means the things they enjoy most and have already worn are all in the hamper, so they’ve sort of naturally selected their go-tos for you – but instead of putting them on the bed they are all nicely coralled in the hamper.
So with their go-tos pulled out of the fray, go through their drawers and their hanging bar and take note of what is left. If you do this for a few weeks in a row, you will start to notice a theme. Certain items never leave the drawer. A few things might consistently get shoved in the back of the closet or balled up on the floor. VOILA – there is your excess! Put that in a tupperware bin and see if you ever even need it again! And if you do not, gleefully donate or consign it. And then remember what those “space wasters” were when you are standing in the store about to buy another outfit for them – simply to be sure you are not repeating some pattern of thinking they’ll wear some item when in actuality they never do.
Whew. Ok, that is 5,688 words and I am feeling ready to call this turkey of a post done. I hope this was helpful in some way if you are looking for ways to simplify the clothing situation in your house.
Psst – If you are looking for more on this subject, here is an old post I wrote about my clothing, here is an excellent book called Simplicity Parenting that talks about decision fatigue and simplifying our homes in general (it totally changed my life and I have read it 3 times), and here is a podcast we did with an remarkable man named Matt who worked on the show Hoarders, and has some fairly enlightening and kind things to say about paring down. Also Katie Bower did a post about her one-rack wardrobe yesterday, which was a lively read too!
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